Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Andreas_Maroon
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Andreas_Maroon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:23 pm

My country has the option of double citizenship.. and if the clinic will be in the Europe as well and the child will be born in Europe, then it is just great. We are still in the Shengen area, so there will be no troubles with travelling. Good that Europe still does hold on in one piece.. Though after the Brexit I feel the first signs of the upcoming problems... So perhaps it is just the time right now to have the kid, to avoid any kind of problems that we hay experience ahead.. And possible problems with the citizenship too. I think that I will even be ready to become the citizen of other country for my kid)
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Chase » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:56 am

yes you are right there is actually the right of the land, if the child is born abroad then he will have the other citizenship but i think that you have to consult about it with the lawyer. personally i do not know a lot about it because we used the agency in our country. i think that it is much easier and in such a way you may get rid of a lot of problems. i think that you have to think about it. but if you do not have an opportunity it is better to consult with someone from the clinic in order to explain everything to you.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Josh_H » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:13 am

As far as I know the citizenship is given do to the parents.. if you are in the program of surrogate motherhood, then it is like a contract. a woman bears a baby and you are lega parents. that means that your kid will be the of the same citizenship as you.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Brendon_L » Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:40 am

If I am not mistaken, and that is possible, the child, born in another country from the citizenship of his or her parents will be of the same background as her or his parents. cause you are those who are to be his her fathers. and the kid would get the back ground of fathers.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Ben_Roar » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:39 pm

Brendon_L wrote:If I am not mistaken, and that is possible, the child, born in another country from the citizenship of his or her parents will be of the same background as her or his parents


That is not completely correct, Brendon) there is such a thing as the "right of the land", I am not sure about the precise name of this law though. It says, that the child automatically gets the citizenship of the country where he was actually born. I am sure that it can be applied to the most countries of the civilized world. I am from UK, and I know certainly that this rule does work here. That gave the opportunity for many illegal immigrants to get the citizenship here... the couples arrived on the islands basically by any means, and here their kid was born - already the citizen of Great Britain.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby JanisNiv » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:29 pm

i and my future husband haven't yet read and searched the info about how shoud gay couples adopt kids and about such exact centers o surrogacy. i mean i am not familiar with all the aspects of the procedure, but i know that in maijor countries here in Europe there are a lot o them.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Paul_O » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:09 am

Ben_Roar wrote: there is such a thing as the "right of the land"

Ben, it does not work in all the countries. And even in the EU this law may be modified or simply disappear in the closest years due to everything that happens right now. I know that in GB this law will be suspended soon for sure because of Brexit. You were correct about the illegal immigrants. GB is currently applying policy of reduction of their number, and this law, as you said it correctly, is one of the loopholes in laws that allows people to stay on the territory of the country. I do not know though how will this influence on the surrogacy programs.. Those should have some separate laws.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Andreas_Maroon » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:06 pm

I've made a small research on the net, and I figured out some unpleasant things about this question. The question appeared to be much more complicated. First of all, you will need to have the baby in the country, that will allow you to obtain the parental rights for it. Somehow.. As I understand, usually that is done trough the reject of the baby by the surrogate mother after the birth. The trick is, there is no country that I know, at least in Europe, where the it would be possible to make the surrogate mother to make that decision... Even if she is not related to the child genetically. So it is up to the surrogate mothers and the agencies, their agreement and their loyalty to this agreement. In this case, you simply adopt the baby after the birth, and then you have the parental rights.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby Just_R » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:50 am

Andreas_Maroon wrote: Somehow..

that is the reason why we need the agencies. they are able to do things that we are not aware of, and they handle the problems that are unsolvable to us.. mere mortals, I mean) Anyway... When I will pass the surrogacy program, the word "somehow" is not what I would like to hear from the agency) I am sure they do know the ways. And I see that the situation is pretty much worse with the rights for the gay families in Europe then it is in US, this is pretty surprising for me, I must confess! I though that Europe is more liberal, you know.. At leas that is the reputation of Europe among people here.
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Re: Surrogacy centres and the baby citizenship

Postby DamonLink » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:37 pm

if i realy get a chance to become a dad I would choose surrogacy centres. i really want tot be a dad. abiological one i mean. It would be something i am sure! ;) ;) I guess it is the best way! But if you ask me about citienship of a kid... well, honestly i am not sure cause each country has its own laws... It depends what cenre you chose :!:

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