The best way

Andreas_Maroon
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Re: The best way

Postby Andreas_Maroon » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:53 pm

Just_R wrote: he left to live in another one

that is a brave step. One must be really committed to his goal to do that. I am not sure I would be able for that. I mean... If you are going to do that - you would not want to live in another country without knowing the language, without having the job.. You need to be able to make new connection and roots there. Not all people are able to do that. I cannot imagine leaving my work here, my friends, my parents and all the things that I had to live somewhere else. Even in order to have a kid. I am sure that there are other ways. If I will not find any existing ones - I will try to make the way for myself, that never existed.
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Re: The best way

Postby DamonLink » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:36 pm

first of all let me congratulate you with becoming a dad :D :D i just can imagine how happy you are feeling all the happiness. and i can only dream of feeling the same one day. if i realy get a chance to become a dad I would choose surrogacy centres. i really want tot be a dad. abiological one i mean. It would be something i am sure! ;) ;)
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Re: The best way

Postby V_Vegas » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:47 pm

Andreas_Maroon wrote:that is a brave step

I am not sure I would be able to do that as well. Though in the modern world it would be really easier to do then it was even 50 years ago. The world does become smaller and more opened - and that is great) i have a neighbour from below, who is a programmer - he is from Ukraine originally. He found the job in Spain in one of the IT companies - and they paid for his relocation here, they are paying for his accommodation as well. So as you see, if you do have a speciality that is in demand, you will always have some options to move to live to another country.
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Re: The best way

Postby Paul_O » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:08 pm

V_Vegas wrote: So as you see, if you do have a speciality that is in demand, you will always have some options to move to live to another country.

that is true. Though, not many people do have specialities like those ones. Besides, there is no guarantee that you are going to be paid for by your employer, I mean the rent, for example. You have to be damn good in what you do. I am not sure that I can brag about hat, yet at least. Even though I am a good specialist in my area. Would I be able to move to another country in order to live with someone? If we would be in really serious relations - and if we would plan to make the family - then yes. there is no point doing that if you are not sure about that person and your mutual future.
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Re: The best way

Postby Ben_Roar » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:55 pm

My fiancé Mike - he was offered to move to another countries to work many times. He even had offers that would allow him to take all his family with him. But in this case, it was not inability, but the lack of wish to move. We both love our country very much, we think this is the best place in the world to live) We want to love here all our life - and to raise our daughter here. And the kid that will become our second one.. that will be our son). Though if I would get in the situation where I would have to choose - I would move to the place, where I have the people whom I love - and who love me.
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Re: The best way

Postby V_Vegas » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:16 am

Ben_Roar wrote: I would move to the place, where I have the people whom I love - and who love me.

that is the point - if you do that - there will be no one to love you there except your husband. that should be enough, of course, but you know that there may be different situations in life - and that you may break apart with him. And what shall you do next then, when you already relocated to that country, when you got the job there, and all your friends and relatives are left in your homeland? That is why it is so hard decision. Because of the uncertainty. You need to know your beloved really well to make such a decision.
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Re: The best way

Postby Ben_Roar » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:52 pm

V_Vegas wrote:that is the point - if you do that - there will be no one to love you there except your husband.

i know that, and I know what fear you want to express by pointing at this fact. You are afraid that if something happens - you are going to be left alone. that is a terrible thing, I know. that is why you should consider really well before doing such a step. you need to trust the person you are moving to on a hundred percent. speaking about he - i do trust my husband on 110 percent - and if we would get into the situation where I would have to choose - I would choose to be with him. Our relations are more important for me then the job or the place where I live.
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Re: The best way

Postby Just_R » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:26 pm

Ben_Roar wrote:You are afraid that if something happens - you are going to be left alone.

People are afraid of that all the time . there is another interesting thing about this. I know that many couples, where people have to make a choice of that kind, may have the following problem. The person, that stays to live on its place - asks the one that is going to move to be at home all the time, telling, that he will handle everything himself. And if you do as he asks - you may be left with nothing, if you are going to break apart. When you try to secure yourself from that, this other person takes it as a sign of distrust. Isnt that silly?
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Re: The best way

Postby Andreas_Maroon » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:43 pm

Just_R wrote:When you try to secure yourself from that, this other person takes it as a sign of distrust. Isnt that silly?

I never seen such situation in the gay couples. Though I saw lot of that amount Ukraine. He was working in the marriage agency. They helped local women to find rich husbands abroad - mostly in US, there were people from the Europe as well though. He was in contact with some of his former clients though, and they told him about their lives. He told me that many women got into the situation, where they were basically like slaves there - they could not support themselves financially, because did not know the language well enough - and they were totally on the mercy of their husbands.
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Re: The best way

Postby Ben_Roar » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:38 pm

Andreas_Maroon wrote:. Though I saw lot of that amount Ukraine.

i do not know about Ukraine - I do not have any people from there whom I would know. In my country people are more polite and descent, as I know. If I would get into the situation of that kind - i would do everything to secure myself. Or, at least, I would not burn down all the bridges to retreat. I mean - I would still have both friends and relatives in my homeland. If something would go wrong - i would simply return - and start all over again. It would not be a problem for me to find the new job anyway.. So I would not really worry about the breakup.

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